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For several months I have been getting the GNAT Ada compiler to work
properly on the four major BSDs. The i386 FreeBSD, the i386 Dragonfly BSD, and the x86_64 Dragonfly BSD ports are currently perfect. The i386 and x86_64 ports of NetBSD are nearly perfect, and only lack a functional DWARF2 unwind mechanism, and the OpenBSD ports are in pretty good shape too. The progress for this work can be seen at http://www.dragonlace.net However the AMD64 FreeBSD version is unusable and it's due to libthr. I'm not sure why the i386 version works with libthr and AMD64 version doesn't. For all four BSDs, there is no configuration difference for threading between architectures. The problem seems to be with the pthread_cond_wait functionality. I've logged a test case segfault via gdb7.1 below. I would greatly appreciate some help in determining where the problem lies. If this problem can be solved, it will likely result in a perfect port of the GNAT Ada compiler for FreeBSD AMD64, something that has not existed before. Regards, John Starting program: /usr/home/marino/test_gnat/test_c9a009c/c9a009c [New LWP 100051] [New Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100051)] [New Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100073)] [New Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100080)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100080)] 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () * 4 Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100080) 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () 3 Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100073) 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 2 Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100051) 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 [Switching to thread 3 (Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100073))]#0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) #0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 #1 0x00000008006904c5 in cond_wait_common (cond=<value optimized out>, mutex=0x800a0c850, abstime=0x0, cancel=1) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_cond.c:204 #2 0x000000000040ca0f in system.tasking.stages.activate_tasks ( chain_access=0x7fffffbfebb0) at s-tassta.adb:382 #3 0x0000000000405950 in c9a009c.t1 (<_task>=<value optimized out>) at c9a009c.adb:52 #4 0x000000000040d655 in system.tasking.stages.task_wrapper ( self_id=0x800a0c700) at s-tassta.adb:1207 #5 0x0000000800688621 in thread_start (curthread=0x800a0ae40) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_create.c:288 #6 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () _______________________________________________ [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:46:33PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
> For several months I have been getting the GNAT Ada compiler to work > properly on the four major BSDs. The i386 FreeBSD, the i386 Dragonfly > BSD, and the x86_64 Dragonfly BSD ports are currently perfect. The i386 > and x86_64 ports of NetBSD are nearly perfect, and only lack a > functional DWARF2 unwind mechanism, and the OpenBSD ports are in pretty > good shape too. The progress for this work can be seen at > http://www.dragonlace.net > > However the AMD64 FreeBSD version is unusable and it's due to libthr. > I'm not sure why the i386 version works with libthr and AMD64 version > doesn't. For all four BSDs, there is no configuration difference for > threading between architectures. > > The problem seems to be with the pthread_cond_wait functionality. > > I've logged a test case segfault via gdb7.1 below. I would greatly > appreciate some help in determining where the problem lies. If this > problem can be solved, it will likely result in a perfect port of the > GNAT Ada compiler for FreeBSD AMD64, something that has not existed before. > Second, I suspect that the backtrace you have shown is not from the thread that generated SIGSEGV. Switch to other threads and see their backtraces, I am almost sure that there will be something more interesting. Just to be sure, in gdb, disassemble _umtx_op_err() and see which instruction is executed when SIGSEGV generated. I think that the thread with the backtrace below is sleeping in syscall. > Regards, > John > > > > Starting program: /usr/home/marino/test_gnat/test_c9a009c/c9a009c > [New LWP 100051] > [New Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100051)] > [New Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100073)] > [New Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100080)] > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > [Switching to Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100080)] > 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () > * 4 Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100080) 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () > 3 Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100073) 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () > at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > 2 Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100051) 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () > at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > [Switching to thread 3 (Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100073))]#0 > 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at > /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) > #0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () > at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > #1 0x00000008006904c5 in cond_wait_common (cond=<value optimized out>, > mutex=0x800a0c850, abstime=0x0, cancel=1) > at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_cond.c:204 > #2 0x000000000040ca0f in system.tasking.stages.activate_tasks ( > chain_access=0x7fffffbfebb0) at s-tassta.adb:382 > #3 0x0000000000405950 in c9a009c.t1 (<_task>=<value optimized out>) > at c9a009c.adb:52 > #4 0x000000000040d655 in system.tasking.stages.task_wrapper ( > self_id=0x800a0c700) at s-tassta.adb:1207 > #5 0x0000000800688621 in thread_start (curthread=0x800a0ae40) > at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_create.c:288 > #6 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > > _______________________________________________ > [hidden email] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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Hi Kostik,
You're right, that was an oversight. I'm using release 8.1, but I tried troubleshooting this months ago on 8.0 and the result was identical. I'm well above my head here. I don't know what I should be looking for. Here's the dissembled _umtx_op_err function, along with the backtraces of the other two threads. They didn't look that interesting to me the first time. -- john Starting program: /usr/home/marino/test_gnat/test_c9a009c/c9a009c [New LWP 100086] [New Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100086)] [New Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100051)] [New Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073)] 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () Cannot set lwp 100073 registers: Invalid argument An error occurred while in a function called from GDB. Evaluation of the expression containing the function (_umtx_op_err) will be abandoned. When the function is done executing, GDB will silently stop. Dump of assembler code for function _umtx_op_err: 0x00000008006923c0 <+0>: mov $0x1c6,%rax 0x00000008006923c7 <+7>: mov %rcx,%r10 0x00000008006923ca <+10>: syscall 0x00000008006923cc <+12>: retq 0x00000008006923cd <+13>: nop 0x00000008006923ce <+14>: nop 0x00000008006923cf <+15>: nop 0x00000008006923d0 <+16>: mov 0x102d09(%rip),%rax # 0x8007950e0 0x00000008006923d7 <+23>: push %rbx 0x00000008006923d8 <+24>: cmp $0xffffffffffffffff,%rax 0x00000008006923dc <+28>: je 0x8006923f5 <_umtx_op_err+53> 0x00000008006923de <+30>: lea 0x102cfb(%rip),%rbx # 0x8007950e0 0x00000008006923e5 <+37>: callq *%rax 0x00000008006923e7 <+39>: mov -0x8(%rbx),%rax 0x00000008006923eb <+43>: sub $0x8,%rbx 0x00000008006923ef <+47>: cmp $0xffffffffffffffff,%rax 0x00000008006923f3 <+51>: jne 0x8006923e5 <_umtx_op_err+37> 0x00000008006923f5 <+53>: pop %rbx 0x00000008006923f6 <+54>: retq 0x00000008006923f7 <+55>: nop End of assembler dump. [Switching to thread 2 (Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100086))]#0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) #0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 #1 0x00000008006904c5 in cond_wait_common (cond=<value optimized out>, mutex=0x800a0bb50, abstime=0x0, cancel=1) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_cond.c:204 #2 0x000000000040bfeb in system.tasking.stages.vulnerable_complete_master () at s-tassta.adb:1696 #3 0x000000000040620a in c9a009c () at c9a009c.adb:44 [Switching to thread 4 (Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073))]#0 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () #0 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () #1 0x000000000040d655 in system.tasking.stages.task_wrapper ( self_id=0x800a52500) at s-tassta.adb:1207 #2 0x0000000800688621 in thread_start (curthread=0x800a64c80) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_create.c:288 #3 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:46:33PM +0100, John Marino wrote: >> For several months I have been getting the GNAT Ada compiler to work >> properly on the four major BSDs. The i386 FreeBSD, the i386 Dragonfly >> BSD, and the x86_64 Dragonfly BSD ports are currently perfect. The i386 >> and x86_64 ports of NetBSD are nearly perfect, and only lack a >> functional DWARF2 unwind mechanism, and the OpenBSD ports are in pretty >> good shape too. The progress for this work can be seen at >> http://www.dragonlace.net >> >> However the AMD64 FreeBSD version is unusable and it's due to libthr. >> I'm not sure why the i386 version works with libthr and AMD64 version >> doesn't. For all four BSDs, there is no configuration difference for >> threading between architectures. >> >> The problem seems to be with the pthread_cond_wait functionality. >> >> I've logged a test case segfault via gdb7.1 below. I would greatly >> appreciate some help in determining where the problem lies. If this >> problem can be solved, it will likely result in a perfect port of the >> GNAT Ada compiler for FreeBSD AMD64, something that has not existed before. >> > First, you did not specified which version of the base system you use. > > Second, I suspect that the backtrace you have shown is not from the > thread that generated SIGSEGV. Switch to other threads and see their > backtraces, I am almost sure that there will be something more interesting. > > Just to be sure, in gdb, disassemble _umtx_op_err() and see which > instruction is executed when SIGSEGV generated. I think that the thread > with the backtrace below is sleeping in syscall. > >> Regards, >> John >> [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 01:35:14PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
> Hi Kostik, > You're right, that was an oversight. I'm using release 8.1, but I tried > troubleshooting this months ago on 8.0 and the result was identical. > > I'm well above my head here. I don't know what I should be looking for. > Here's the dissembled _umtx_op_err function, along with the > backtraces of the other two threads. They didn't look that interesting > to me the first time. The instruction counter is right before syscall, so I do think that the thread was executing the syscall. Backtrace for LWP 100073 indeed looks interesting, because the address 0x00007fffffbfeb19 belongs to the area used for stack(s), including the thread stacks. FreeBSD amd64 currently provides non-executable stacks for non-main threads, but executable stack for main thread. i386 has no support for nx bit on non-PAE kernels. As a useful experiment, go to src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_stack.c, find the following fragment if ((stackaddr = mmap(stackaddr, stacksize+guardsize, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_STACK, -1, 0)) != MAP_FAILED && and change the flags from PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE to PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE | PROT_EXEC. Then recompile and reinstall libthr, and report back what happens with your test. > > -- john > > > > Starting program: /usr/home/marino/test_gnat/test_c9a009c/c9a009c > [New LWP 100086] > [New Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100086)] > [New Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100051)] > [New Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073)] > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > [Switching to Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073)] > 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () > Cannot set lwp 100073 registers: Invalid argument > > An error occurred while in a function called from GDB. > Evaluation of the expression containing the function > (_umtx_op_err) will be abandoned. > When the function is done executing, GDB will silently stop. > Dump of assembler code for function _umtx_op_err: > 0x00000008006923c0 <+0>: mov $0x1c6,%rax > 0x00000008006923c7 <+7>: mov %rcx,%r10 > 0x00000008006923ca <+10>: syscall > 0x00000008006923cc <+12>: retq > 0x00000008006923cd <+13>: nop > 0x00000008006923ce <+14>: nop > 0x00000008006923cf <+15>: nop > 0x00000008006923d0 <+16>: mov 0x102d09(%rip),%rax # > 0x8007950e0 > 0x00000008006923d7 <+23>: push %rbx > 0x00000008006923d8 <+24>: cmp $0xffffffffffffffff,%rax > 0x00000008006923dc <+28>: je 0x8006923f5 <_umtx_op_err+53> > 0x00000008006923de <+30>: lea 0x102cfb(%rip),%rbx # > 0x8007950e0 > 0x00000008006923e5 <+37>: callq *%rax > 0x00000008006923e7 <+39>: mov -0x8(%rbx),%rax > 0x00000008006923eb <+43>: sub $0x8,%rbx > 0x00000008006923ef <+47>: cmp $0xffffffffffffffff,%rax > 0x00000008006923f3 <+51>: jne 0x8006923e5 <_umtx_op_err+37> > 0x00000008006923f5 <+53>: pop %rbx > 0x00000008006923f6 <+54>: retq > 0x00000008006923f7 <+55>: nop > End of assembler dump. > [Switching to thread 2 (Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100086))]#0 > 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at > /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) > #0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () > at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > #1 0x00000008006904c5 in cond_wait_common (cond=<value optimized out>, > mutex=0x800a0bb50, abstime=0x0, cancel=1) > at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_cond.c:204 > #2 0x000000000040bfeb in > system.tasking.stages.vulnerable_complete_master () > at s-tassta.adb:1696 > #3 0x000000000040620a in c9a009c () at c9a009c.adb:44 > [Switching to thread 4 (Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073))]#0 > 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () > #0 0x00007fffffbfeb19 in ?? () > #1 0x000000000040d655 in system.tasking.stages.task_wrapper ( > self_id=0x800a52500) at s-tassta.adb:1207 > #2 0x0000000800688621 in thread_start (curthread=0x800a64c80) > at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_create.c:288 > #3 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > > > > > Kostik Belousov wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:46:33PM +0100, John Marino wrote: > >>For several months I have been getting the GNAT Ada compiler to work > >>properly on the four major BSDs. The i386 FreeBSD, the i386 Dragonfly > >>BSD, and the x86_64 Dragonfly BSD ports are currently perfect. The i386 > >>and x86_64 ports of NetBSD are nearly perfect, and only lack a > >>functional DWARF2 unwind mechanism, and the OpenBSD ports are in pretty > >>good shape too. The progress for this work can be seen at > >>http://www.dragonlace.net > >> > >>However the AMD64 FreeBSD version is unusable and it's due to libthr. > >>I'm not sure why the i386 version works with libthr and AMD64 version > >>doesn't. For all four BSDs, there is no configuration difference for > >>threading between architectures. > >> > >>The problem seems to be with the pthread_cond_wait functionality. > >> > >>I've logged a test case segfault via gdb7.1 below. I would greatly > >>appreciate some help in determining where the problem lies. If this > >>problem can be solved, it will likely result in a perfect port of the > >>GNAT Ada compiler for FreeBSD AMD64, something that has not existed > >>before. > >> > >First, you did not specified which version of the base system you use. > > > >Second, I suspect that the backtrace you have shown is not from the > >thread that generated SIGSEGV. Switch to other threads and see their > >backtraces, I am almost sure that there will be something more interesting. > > > >Just to be sure, in gdb, disassemble _umtx_op_err() and see which > >instruction is executed when SIGSEGV generated. I think that the thread > >with the backtrace below is sleeping in syscall. > > > >>Regards, > >>John > >> |
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Hi Kostik,
The result is the test passes. A small gdb log follows to prove it. So what does this mean? -- John Starting program: /usr/home/marino/test_gnat/test_c9a009c/c9a009c [New LWP 100064] [New Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100064)] [New Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100051)] [New Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073)] [New Thread 800aa1ac0 (LWP 100090)] [Thread 800aa1ac0 (LWP 100090) exited] Invalid selected thread. [Switching to thread 2 (Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100064))]#0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) Continuing. [Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073) exited] Invalid selected thread. [Switching to thread 2 (Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100064))]#0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) Continuing. [Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100051) exited] Invalid selected thread. [Switching to thread 2 (Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100064))]#0 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) Continuing. Program exited normally. Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 01:35:14PM +0100, John Marino wrote: >> Hi Kostik, >> You're right, that was an oversight. I'm using release 8.1, but I tried >> troubleshooting this months ago on 8.0 and the result was identical. >> >> I'm well above my head here. I don't know what I should be looking for. >> Here's the dissembled _umtx_op_err function, along with the >> backtraces of the other two threads. They didn't look that interesting >> to me the first time. > The instruction counter is right before syscall, so I do think that the > thread was executing the syscall. > > Backtrace for LWP 100073 indeed looks interesting, because the address > 0x00007fffffbfeb19 belongs to the area used for stack(s), including > the thread stacks. > > FreeBSD amd64 currently provides non-executable stacks for non-main > threads, but executable stack for main thread. i386 has no support for > nx bit on non-PAE kernels. > > As a useful experiment, go to src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_stack.c, find > the following fragment > > if ((stackaddr = mmap(stackaddr, stacksize+guardsize, > PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_STACK, > -1, 0)) != MAP_FAILED && > > and change the flags from PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE to > PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE | PROT_EXEC. Then recompile and reinstall libthr, > and report back what happens with your test. > [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 02:08:31PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
> Hi Kostik, > The result is the test passes. A small gdb log follows to prove it. > So what does this mean? This means that the Ada complier or tasking library uses on-stack trampolines for something. Since FreeBSD threads on amd64 get non-executable stacks, the tasking fails. The proper solution is to provide a support for conditional non-executable stacks, as described in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2010-November/010826.html The latest WIP patch is http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/misc/nxstacks.3.patch I hope to get something in the tree not too long. > > -- John > > > Starting program: /usr/home/marino/test_gnat/test_c9a009c/c9a009c > [New LWP 100064] > [New Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100064)] > [New Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100051)] > [New Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073)] > [New Thread 800aa1ac0 (LWP 100090)] > [Thread 800aa1ac0 (LWP 100090) exited] > Invalid selected thread. > [Switching to thread 2 (Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100064))]#0 > 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at > /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) > Continuing. > [Thread 800a64c80 (LWP 100073) exited] > Invalid selected thread. > [Switching to thread 2 (Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100064))]#0 > 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at > /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) > Continuing. > [Thread 800a0ae40 (LWP 100051) exited] > Invalid selected thread. > [Switching to thread 2 (Thread 800a041c0 (LWP 100064))]#0 > 0x00000008006923cc in _umtx_op_err () at > /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/amd64/_umtx_op_err.S:37 > 37 RSYSCALL_ERR(_umtx_op) > Continuing. > > Program exited normally. > > > > > Kostik Belousov wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 01:35:14PM +0100, John Marino wrote: > >>Hi Kostik, > >>You're right, that was an oversight. I'm using release 8.1, but I tried > >>troubleshooting this months ago on 8.0 and the result was identical. > >> > >>I'm well above my head here. I don't know what I should be looking for. > >> Here's the dissembled _umtx_op_err function, along with the > >>backtraces of the other two threads. They didn't look that interesting > >>to me the first time. > >The instruction counter is right before syscall, so I do think that the > >thread was executing the syscall. > > > >Backtrace for LWP 100073 indeed looks interesting, because the address > >0x00007fffffbfeb19 belongs to the area used for stack(s), including > >the thread stacks. > > > >FreeBSD amd64 currently provides non-executable stacks for non-main > >threads, but executable stack for main thread. i386 has no support for > >nx bit on non-PAE kernels. > > > >As a useful experiment, go to src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_stack.c, find > >the following fragment > > > > if ((stackaddr = mmap(stackaddr, stacksize+guardsize, > > PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_STACK, > > -1, 0)) != MAP_FAILED && > > > >and change the flags from PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE to > >PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE | PROT_EXEC. Then recompile and reinstall libthr, > >and report back what happens with your test. > > |
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Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Would this patch get into
FreeBSD 8.2, and would that mean that GNAT would start working properly starting with FreeBSD 8.2 if that happened? I guess that also means the other BSD's have been allowing executable stacks all along. Thanks! Kostik Belousov wrote: > This means that the Ada complier or tasking library uses on-stack > trampolines for something. Since FreeBSD threads on amd64 get > non-executable stacks, the tasking fails. > > The proper solution is to provide a support for conditional > non-executable stacks, as described in > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2010-November/010826.html > The latest WIP patch is > http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/misc/nxstacks.3.patch > I hope to get something in the tree not too long. > [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 02:37:29PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
> Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Would this patch get into > FreeBSD 8.2, and would that mean that GNAT would start working properly > starting with FreeBSD 8.2 if that happened? Definitely not in 8.2. Might be in 8.3, if successfully landed in HEAD. Besides the patch for the base system, compiler must be configured to properly mark the objects that need executable thunks on the stack. See the references in the arch@ message I pointed to. > > I guess that also means the other BSD's have been allowing executable > stacks all along. Or, there is a compiler configuration that prevents using the thunks on the stack. |
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Hi Kostik,
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. After some research, I discovered that only DragonFly BSD allows execution on the stack by default. NetBSD and OpenBSD (and Solaris and Darwin) all were specially configured within gcc to execute mprotect first to enable this functionality. FreeBSD never had this gcc configuration code and frankly it looks like it should have already been there. I created my own __enable_execute_stack macro function based on these previous works and now GNAT has passed all tests! Since i386 always worked, I only applied to macro to the AMD64 configuration header. You've been a great help! Once I understood what the issue was, everything fell into place. -- John Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 02:37:29PM +0100, John Marino wrote: >> Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Would this patch get into >> FreeBSD 8.2, and would that mean that GNAT would start working properly >> starting with FreeBSD 8.2 if that happened? > Definitely not in 8.2. > Might be in 8.3, if successfully landed in HEAD. > > Besides the patch for the base system, compiler must be configured > to properly mark the objects that need executable thunks on the stack. > See the references in the arch@ message I pointed to. > >> I guess that also means the other BSD's have been allowing executable >> stacks all along. > Or, there is a compiler configuration that prevents using the thunks > on the stack. [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 08:37:14PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
> Hi Kostik, > > Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. After some research, I > discovered that only DragonFly BSD allows execution on the stack by > default. NetBSD and OpenBSD (and Solaris and Darwin) all were specially > configured within gcc to execute mprotect first to enable this > functionality. FreeBSD never had this gcc configuration code and > frankly it looks like it should have already been there. > > I created my own __enable_execute_stack macro function based on these > previous works and now GNAT has passed all tests! Since i386 always > worked, I only applied to macro to the AMD64 configuration header. > > You've been a great help! Once I understood what the issue was, > everything fell into place. Will you upstream the changes to gcc ? > > -- John > > > Kostik Belousov wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 02:37:29PM +0100, John Marino wrote: > >>Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Would this patch get into > >>FreeBSD 8.2, and would that mean that GNAT would start working properly > >>starting with FreeBSD 8.2 if that happened? > >Definitely not in 8.2. > >Might be in 8.3, if successfully landed in HEAD. > > > >Besides the patch for the base system, compiler must be configured > >to properly mark the objects that need executable thunks on the stack. > >See the references in the arch@ message I pointed to. > > > >>I guess that also means the other BSD's have been allowing executable > >>stacks all along. > >Or, there is a compiler configuration that prevents using the thunks > >on the stack. |
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Ah, interesting. I didn't realize the ramifications of AMD64-only
application of mprotect(). It's easy enough to apply the same macro to both architectures. As far as pushing it upstream, I've got literally a few dozen patches, and the majority of them should be contributed back. I haven't gone through the absurdly difficult and time-consuming process of assigning copyright over to the FSF, partly because I reside in France with a Dutch employer and nobody I work for would sign the legal documents FSF requests (if I even wanted to share with my employers what I do in my own time.) I may go through the process some day if we can leave my employers out of it, but it's not a priority at this moment. I'm not philosophically opposed to giving back, although I am dismayed at the number of offered patches that are never reviewed by the gcc developers and die on the vine. If I could find a way to "fast-track" these patches in where I wouldn't be wasting my time, I'd do it. It's a pain to maintain a parallel fork and I'd love to reduce the number of differences between the code bases. Obviously if you have any ideas that get my FreeBSD work into the gcc efficiently, I'm all ears. Regards, John Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 08:37:14PM +0100, John Marino wrote: >> Hi Kostik, >> >> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. After some research, I >> discovered that only DragonFly BSD allows execution on the stack by >> default. NetBSD and OpenBSD (and Solaris and Darwin) all were specially >> configured within gcc to execute mprotect first to enable this >> functionality. FreeBSD never had this gcc configuration code and >> frankly it looks like it should have already been there. >> >> I created my own __enable_execute_stack macro function based on these >> previous works and now GNAT has passed all tests! Since i386 always >> worked, I only applied to macro to the AMD64 configuration header. > You need the same application of mprotect() for i386 too, since > 32bit binary executed on amd64 kernel gets non-executable stack as well. > >> You've been a great help! Once I understood what the issue was, >> everything fell into place. > Will you upstream the changes to gcc ? > [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, John Marino wrote:
> Ah, interesting. I didn't realize the ramifications of AMD64-only > application of mprotect(). It's easy enough to apply the same macro to both > architectures. > > As far as pushing it upstream, I've got literally a few dozen patches, and > the majority of them should be contributed back. I haven't gone through the > absurdly difficult and time-consuming process of assigning copyright over to > the FSF, partly because I reside in France with a Dutch employer and nobody I > work for would sign the legal documents FSF requests (if I even wanted to > share with my employers what I do in my own time.) > > I may go through the process some day if we can leave my employers out of it, > but it's not a priority at this moment. I'm not philosophically opposed to > giving back, although I am dismayed at the number of offered patches that are > never reviewed by the gcc developers and die on the vine. If I could find a > way to "fast-track" these patches in where I wouldn't be wasting my time, I'd > do it. It's a pain to maintain a parallel fork and I'd love to reduce the > number of differences between the code bases. > > Obviously if you have any ideas that get my FreeBSD work into the gcc > efficiently, I'm all ears. I've got FSF paperwork on file, specifically to submit my original FreeBSD and VxWorks GNAT ports to AdaCore (which they then upstreamed to GCC). It's been a few years since I submitted the paperwork, however, and I'm not sure if they require resubmittal at periodic intervals. It may be possible for you to explain your changes to me, without me looking at your original code or changes. -- DE _______________________________________________ [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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Hi Daniel,
First, thanks for the offer. I might come back to you on that. Secondly, I should have mentioned that the majority of my patches are GNAT specific, and very few are like this one which might apply to all FreeBSD/GCC users. I have already created 7 new FreeBSD ports that include this "GNAT AUX", the GNAT Programming Studio, and the Ada Web Server. I will work with the FreeBSD ports people shortly to get these ports into the tree, and also to prune some of the previous GNAT ports, such as gnat-gcc44. If I recall, your port was GNAT GPL, which is a different beast. Anyway, the FreeBSD/Ada users will have the benefit of my work shortly. So maybe we should only focus on non-Ada patches. I don't have very many on those, and the majority are on other BSD systems, not FreeBSD. John Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, John Marino wrote: > >> Ah, interesting. I didn't realize the ramifications of AMD64-only >> application of mprotect(). It's easy enough to apply the same macro >> to both architectures. >> >> As far as pushing it upstream, I've got literally a few dozen patches, >> and the majority of them should be contributed back. I haven't gone >> through the absurdly difficult and time-consuming process of assigning >> copyright over to the FSF, partly because I reside in France with a >> Dutch employer and nobody I work for would sign the legal documents >> FSF requests (if I even wanted to share with my employers what I do in >> my own time.) >> >> I may go through the process some day if we can leave my employers out >> of it, but it's not a priority at this moment. I'm not >> philosophically opposed to giving back, although I am dismayed at the >> number of offered patches that are never reviewed by the gcc >> developers and die on the vine. If I could find a way to "fast-track" >> these patches in where I wouldn't be wasting my time, I'd do it. It's >> a pain to maintain a parallel fork and I'd love to reduce the number >> of differences between the code bases. >> >> Obviously if you have any ideas that get my FreeBSD work into the gcc >> efficiently, I'm all ears. > > I've got FSF paperwork on file, specifically to submit my original > FreeBSD and VxWorks GNAT ports to AdaCore (which they then upstreamed > to GCC). It's been a few years since I submitted the paperwork, > however, and I'm not sure if they require resubmittal at periodic > intervals. It may be possible for you to explain your changes to > me, without me looking at your original code or changes. > [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2011, John Marino wrote:
> Hi Daniel, > First, thanks for the offer. I might come back to you on that. > Secondly, I should have mentioned that the majority of my patches are GNAT > specific, and very few are like this one which might apply to all FreeBSD/GCC > users. Well, it doesn't matter if they are GNAT or GCC specific, I believe you need FSF paperwork on file for either of them to be upstreamed. There really isn't much of a difference between the GPL version of GNAT (from AdaCore) or the GCC GNAT - the GPL version is released from some stable GCC version. AdaCore eventually upstreams all of their changes into GCC. If you notice, the FreeBSD port of GNAT-GPL no longer has any run time files as local patches because they have been upstreamed. There are only small patches to change the binary names (e.g., gcc -> gnatgcc) or other minor configuration changes. Anyway, it would be really nice to upstream your changes, to make the ports simpler, and so that GNAT-GPL will also eventually inherit AMD64 support. But regardless, thank you for your work! -- DE _______________________________________________ [hidden email] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" |
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